i don’t know if it’s a second hand reference or a direct reference to experiencing a psychadelic trip and its visuals but yes - OP either heard that psychodelic trips can bring you interesting revelations or has experienced it themselves, and fractals are an almost universal psychadelic visual, hence the image
regarding the logos bit - have you never had a profound realisation that happened so quickly in your brain and on the level of pure emotion (instead of words) that you then needed significantly more time than it took you to think that realisation to actually verbalise what you felt/thought/experienced?
to lead with the most extreme example: ego death, if you take enough psychedelics and are able to let go, you might experience the death of your ego. It’s simply impossible to describe with any mortal tongue, but i’ll try to paint a picture of how it feels. At some point in your trip, long after time lost meaning, you find yourself- gone. There’s sort of like and- echo, at the back of your mind, a faint whisper that is you, you aren’t really there anymore. If you let go of the last strand of what’s left of you, you’ll find your mind dissolving altogether and a very specific and universal feeling will occur: you’ll feel, for a short while, or maybe multiple hours, again time has lost all meaning, that you’re part of the universe, and you’ll understand that you are the universe, a part of it, but also all of it in a way, the universe experiences ourselves through all of us, and we are one, seperate only in the way that mushrooms appear to only be the bits that we can eat.
^and this is to say, trips like that are prime examples of experiencing the purest of logos, understanding, on an innate level, a truth about the world and feeling it change you and your perspective on the world, and at the same time being completely unable to do it any justice when you try to describe it, because usually it’s very hard and sometimes it’s downright impossible
Well i’d argue that feeling something isn’t exactly gnosis then. Doesn’t matter how awesome you felt if the extent of your revelation is "i exist and i’m part of the universe’
Call me cynical but hearing druggies talk about their trips like it’s some transcendental super knowledge sounds just like a facebook aunt talking about the power of healing crystals to me or some such nonsense.
Calling anyone who’s ever had a psychedelic experience a “druggie” is extremely judgemental. Unlike crystals, the point of psychedelics is the experience itself, and I can assure you it’s very real. But that makes me a “druggie” right? Seems like you think the only people qualified to comment on psychedelic experiences are the ones who know nothing about them because they’ve never had one.
I’ve no problem wih drugs or even psychedelics, but the moment you start acting like you’re a buddhist monk because you took acid once is when i’ll start rolling my eyes.
i don’t know if it’s a second hand reference or a direct reference to experiencing a psychadelic trip and its visuals but yes - OP either heard that psychodelic trips can bring you interesting revelations or has experienced it themselves, and fractals are an almost universal psychadelic visual, hence the image
regarding the logos bit - have you never had a profound realisation that happened so quickly in your brain and on the level of pure emotion (instead of words) that you then needed significantly more time than it took you to think that realisation to actually verbalise what you felt/thought/experienced?
to lead with the most extreme example: ego death, if you take enough psychedelics and are able to let go, you might experience the death of your ego. It’s simply impossible to describe with any mortal tongue, but i’ll try to paint a picture of how it feels. At some point in your trip, long after time lost meaning, you find yourself- gone. There’s sort of like and- echo, at the back of your mind, a faint whisper that is you, you aren’t really there anymore. If you let go of the last strand of what’s left of you, you’ll find your mind dissolving altogether and a very specific and universal feeling will occur: you’ll feel, for a short while, or maybe multiple hours, again time has lost all meaning, that you’re part of the universe, and you’ll understand that you are the universe, a part of it, but also all of it in a way, the universe experiences ourselves through all of us, and we are one, seperate only in the way that mushrooms appear to only be the bits that we can eat.
^and this is to say, trips like that are prime examples of experiencing the purest of logos, understanding, on an innate level, a truth about the world and feeling it change you and your perspective on the world, and at the same time being completely unable to do it any justice when you try to describe it, because usually it’s very hard and sometimes it’s downright impossible
Mate, you’re not “one with the universe”, you were just high.
Whooooosh.
They’re describing how something felt, not something that “actually” happened. Who are you to say they didn’t feel that way?
Well i’d argue that feeling something isn’t exactly gnosis then. Doesn’t matter how awesome you felt if the extent of your revelation is "i exist and i’m part of the universe’
Call me cynical but hearing druggies talk about their trips like it’s some transcendental super knowledge sounds just like a facebook aunt talking about the power of healing crystals to me or some such nonsense.
Calling anyone who’s ever had a psychedelic experience a “druggie” is extremely judgemental. Unlike crystals, the point of psychedelics is the experience itself, and I can assure you it’s very real. But that makes me a “druggie” right? Seems like you think the only people qualified to comment on psychedelic experiences are the ones who know nothing about them because they’ve never had one.
I’ve no problem wih drugs or even psychedelics, but the moment you start acting like you’re a buddhist monk because you took acid once is when i’ll start rolling my eyes.
You’re reading a lot into that person’s comment that isn’t there.