“Kenny just began to gasp for air repeatedly and the execution took about 25 minutes total.”

Pretty compassionate way to kill a person.

Once again, the Law in the south is brutal.

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    9 months ago

    You did that in a safe situation where nobody was trying to kill you. I don’t suffer when holding my breath underwater, but the moment someone holds me down I am going to panic.

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      9 months ago

      Try to hold your breath for as much as you can, and you will feel an very strong urge to breathe. This doesn’t happen with nitrogen.

      Sure, the person is mad scared, but he’s not suffering because of the nitrogen.

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        9 months ago

        “Waterboarding doesn’t cause suffering because it isn’t literally drowning.”

        That’s what you sound like.

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          The body is weird when it comes to breathing. It doesn’t measure one of the critical gasses. 3 things particularly send the body into a breathing panic.

          • Rising CO2 (via blood acidity)

          • Water in the airways.

          • Resistance to inflating the lungs.

          Water boarding is particularly evil, since it creates just enough of the last 2 to trigger a full blown drowning reaction, but is light enough to not actually be dangerous. This lets the questioner hold the victim in that zone, without permanent physical harm (but massive psychological harm).

          Nitrogen hypoxia doesn’t set off any of those triggers. This makes it particularly dangerous to some workers. They don’t realise anything is wrong until they pass out.

          Also, to clarify. I am massively against the death penalty. It’s both cruel, and not particularly effective as a deterrent. It’s also no cheaper, in practice, than life imprisonment. However, if it is going to be used, it should be as humane as possible. Nitrogen hypoxia is about as humane as it can get.

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            They cannot do it humanely with a method that requires the person to breath normally to work. If they can hold their breath it will always be inhumane because they will still be struggling and have the same impending doom and physical reaction as waterboarding.

            It does not matter if the chemical properties are different when the person has a working brain and doesn’t want to die. Or if it is being implemented by incompetent people who couldn’t even kill him with lethal injection in 2022.

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              9 months ago

              So what method would you suggest, assuming you must choose a method?

              I’m completely against the death penalty. It’s no longer an option over here in the UK. However, if it must be done, do it as humanely as possible.

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                9 months ago

                Locked in a box, with a cat, a flask of poison, a radioactive source, and a Geiger counter.

                Except when the Geiger counter gets a hit, it sets off a nuclear bomb inside the box so I’m instantly vaporized.

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                  9 months ago

                  It only truly works if you can isolate the room completely. That’s quite hard to do with a nuke involved. You’ll definitely know when they are dead!

                  Unfortunately, I believe any use of nuclear weapons is prohibited by treaties. Might I suggest a giant acme hammer or anvil? Instant meat paste, assuming they aren’t a cartoon character in disguise.

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                    9 months ago

                    I kinda want to be able to donate my organs, so maybe they could just make a bomb-helmet with shaped charges that would paste my head and leave the rest of my body intact for harvesting. 🤯