Summary
Donald Trump’s push to annex Canada as the 51st U.S. state is confusing due to its sudden and unexplained emergence.
Initially praising Canada as an ally, Trump now aggressively seeks annexation, imposing tariffs, criticizing trade deficits, and challenging established borders and treaties.
Former officials and congressional Republicans express bewilderment, stating they have “no clue” about Trump’s motivation.
Canadian leaders and the U.S. business community strongly oppose the move, citing sovereignty and economic harm.
Republicans also question Trump’s strategy, noting annexation would add millions of liberal-leaning voters and complicate American politics.
This is his (stupid and selfdefeating) way to tackle four problems:
- US industry, especially those close to him, needs rare earth minerals. Canada and especially Greenland might provide those.
- Climate change will render large parts of the US uninhabitable in a few decades time. The US therefore needs Lebensraum. Now that’s a word he and his right-arm-raising friends love.
- Combining 2 and 1, the Arctic is melting. Exposing all sorts of new mineable goodies, and opening up new waterways. That will provide new economic opportunities as well as create new military threats. Owning Canada and Greenland would go a long way towards mitigating that.
- Trump sees a future in which a few large power blocks control the world. Currently, the US is one of the smallest of those: only 350 million where China and India are over 1 billion each, Europe is more than 500 million, etc. So the US needs to expand and grow its population size.
- Expand and grown population size by deportig?
He’s much too stupid for any of this, so I assume we’re talking about the architects of project 2025 and/or putin?
Could find some lebensraum in Russia instead?
The Canadians are our homies, why would orange want to hurt our homie? They’ve been with us thru thick and thin, and now orange wants to fuck things up for us? Don’t think we want this either dear Canadians, those ball guzzlers just regurgitate whatever orange says. Even if it hurts us, by Canadian goods only until orange leaves office, if not sooner because homies should only kiss, not attack.
It’s not confusing - they know climate change is real and they want more northern territories for when the shit hits the fan so they have somewhere to go
Can’t stop big oil though because you can’t run a military on batteries yet and besides, muh Raytheon stock
You don’t try to understand insanity, you treat it.
Don’t you have to understand it somewhat to treat it?
Republicans also question Trump’s strategy, noting annexation would add millions of liberal-leaning voters and complicate American politics.
You mean millions of insurgents literally trying to murder every Republican politician and burn America to the ground. Not sure why their voting habits would be relevant in the face of that.
I think a lot of Americans are completely unaware of just how fucking furious we are at this flippant talk of destroying our country and subjugating our people. Even a lot of the ones who are unsympathetic to Trump don’t understand just what this kind of talk means to us.
The cost both monetarily and in manpower to invade Canada would be astronomical
Don’t forget the cost on the souls of the American people for the betrayal.
I mean it really isn’t confusing if you look at it through the lens of Putin told his lackey to fuck up everything he could concentrating on wrecking our strongest trading and defense relationships.
Seen through that lens it’s very clear what the agenda is: Weaken the US and its allies.
It’s not confusing, he’s a megalomaniac who thinks foreign policy should resemble a game of Risk. Outside a tight circle of influence, everyone else is disposable meat that annoys him and deserves whatever punishment they receive. It’s not new behavior.
How tight is that circle? Mr Trump seemed to abandon Mr Giuliani at a crucial time, and I thought the two were thick as thieves.
Giuliani was a useful idiot with a law degree and a certain amount of 9/11 good will. Better idiots with fewer ethical standards and law degrees are throwing themselves at him, and he doesn’t need to pretend to give a fuck about American lives or first responders now that he’s in power. Like everyone else who rode the 9/11 wave and thought it was amazing for poll numbers and easy fundraising.
It might be confusing dumb muricans, but its pissing canadians off
“Canada only works as a state,” Trump said Thursday. “We don’t need anything they have. As a state, it would be one of the great states anywhere. This would be the most incredible country, visually. If you look at a map, they drew an artificial line right through it, between Canada and the U.S. Just a straight, artificial line. Somebody did it a long time ago, many many decades ago. Makes no sense. It’s so perfect as a great and cherished state.”
They’re all “artificial” lines Donald
“We don’t need anything they have […]”
I say again, “okay, Dougie, blink the lights a bit.”
Shut down 4 red states for the weekend and see how it goes.
It’s so perfect as a great and cherished state.
Wrong word, Donald. You mean “coveted.” You don’t cherish Canada, you covet it.
Yet the line south of Texas is inviolable, sacred, a proud bulwark…
Each province should be a state! We will be come blue as a country and can have Medicare for all and high speed rail.
It’s not really confusing. His whole strategy, as we saw during his first term, is to do and say so much outrageous stuff that no particular scandal can stick with him. He also thinks being a bully is being a good businessman.
I doubt he would actually want to annex anywhere, but it’s easy ragebait that he can keep bringing up to keep news on that and off of his crimes.
I don’t agree. I think he will really do it. Spewing out everything at once is benefitting him/project 2025 but it would be a mistake to think it’s just talk at this point. That’s why Canadian politicians are being so strong on this. It’s really happening.
Agreed. The outlandish stuff is actually a little bit safer. Actually dangerous geopolitical stuff that might kick off something he can’t control, because it might realistically happen, he avoids like the plague unless it carries some kind of strong benefit to him personally. He just likes to talk shit because it’s fun. I don’t think it is any more complicated than that.
I suspect that this is why Musk was brought in. Musk is actually willing to take an axe to the main pillars of the building, in a lot more energetic and systematized fashion than Trump would be inclined to.
Why believe Congressional Republicans at their word when they say they don’t support this talk or don’t know where it is coming from? They’re collaborator filth. They will “suddenly” fall in line when something actionable is put forth.
They could show their disapproval by impeaching Trump. They would never though.
Climate change will make the southern 2/3 of the USA unlivable within a few decades. Canada has a lot of land. Trump’s teamwants it and the resources within.
25th Amendment anyone?
25 Trump, then 25 Vance.
Then Johnson after.
For prompt service, please take a number and wait in line.
Republicans: I vigorously maintain that dementia is, in fact, pretty fucking cool.
