• TigrisMorte@kbin.social
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      8 months ago

      People abuse other People. Concepts and ideas do not. Religion is not remotely involved in anything a fundamentalist does except as their excuse.

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    8 months ago

    Fuck their religion. And they wonder why the US wants to spread western values.

    Their values have no place in this world. None. It’s not “culture” it’s exerting control over other people who have no recourse. It’s an invalid way to live

    • BrikoX@lemmy.zipOPM
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      8 months ago

      Not so different from other extreme religious positions, like hate and violence towards LGBT or removing personal freedom with banning abortion coming from Christianity. Or Hindutva terror coming from Hinduism.

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    8 months ago

    At some point you have to just beat on these authoritarians. The only thing they know is violence. Sure, try peaceful protests first, but don’t stop there if it’s not getting the job done.

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      8 months ago

      The paradox of tolerance – those who break the ‘social contract’ deserve no tolerance from the otherwise tolerant, otherwise they’ll just run roughshod over everyone. I hate violence as well and have no stomach for it, but it does seem there may be no other way to stop regimes like this.

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        8 months ago

        As always, it’s not that easy

        First you would.do well to read up on the history of Iran, especially the involvement of the US in basically creating Iran as it is today.

        Once you got that down, you have got to understand how religion and culture works there. Simply saying “kill the masters” won’t work, we did that with Saddam Hussein and after wars and deaths, shit was and is worse.

        A LOT more will be needed to change counties like these for the better, and simply talking about breaking the paradox of tolerance won’t do.