I will be blunt and say that Lemmy has ironic bigotry and disdain on the people of colour and working class who voted for Trump.

it’s not that complex, i just think that everyone who voted for trump is stupid. Or at the very least, incredibly ignorant. And the facts back me up on this one.

It is important to understand the other side even if you don’t agree; that way you would know where they are coming from and sway them.

literally how, they live in delusion, They do not live in reality. They think “illegal immigrants” aren’t here of legal status. Which is factually untrue. They think democrat cities are a hellhole, and they think they have more gun violence than red states, which is also untrue. In fact large urban cities tend to have the lowest per capita gun violence rates. They think kamala harris is a literal communistic fascist trying to overthrow the government and steal power from biden.

They also think that jan 6th was a guided tour of the capitol, and when presented with information will tell you it was either “FBI agents” or “antifa”

They can’t even tell you what caused the inflation in 2020-2024.

These people are akin to dementia patients. How are we supposed to understand them?

but people don’t have jobs and crime rate is up.

according to what, and on what timescales? Unemployment is still relatively low, and crime rates have been trending down since post pandemic. It seems like things might be moderately worse, mostly because of inflation, but that’s about it.

The former blue wall is now the orange Rust Belt that colours Trump.

it’s literally been one election cycle. If this is our standard of proof, this has already happened before, a few times probably.

And it is taboo to say this but many places are indeed overwhelmed by too much immigration since those places don’t have the infrastructure to support the sudden population increase.

and who is responsible for this? Republicans, the people we just elected. We had two border bills under biden, title 42 for the rest of the term, and a late executive order to actually do something after the congress failed twice.

Chronically underfunded public services make locals and immigrants compete for school, jobs and hospital beds. Immigrants are blamed instead, when in fact it’s the affluent middle and upper classes who keep voting against building more social housing and expanding health services because they don’t want their property value to go down and/or pay more taxes.

technically it’s the asylum immigration causing this strain, since they aren’t full citizens yet, or kicked out for not passing asylum court, but of course, nobody wants to pay a few million dollars in the fed to fix this problem outright. Although there are problems with things like NIMBYism and people not voting for things like funding education, which has been a republican talking point for ages so there’s that.

And frankly, I believe many Lemmy users fall into this class camp and don’t want to admit we’re part of the problem.

i’m not, and never will be, even if i had the money it wouldn’t be a problem for me. I hate being around people. So this will never be a particular strong suit or problem point for me.

We are not rubbing shoulders with working class folks who lost their traditional manufacturing jobs and not experiencing their every day struggle.

we also have to ascribe some blame to people who simply do not want to move out of the working class as well. Not to double back and be classist here, but coal mining? Seriously? That industry is dead! Get over it and get another job already! Oh what’s that, your entire county is out of work? Sounds like a governmental failure. They should’ve done better.

This is a really big problem with republican populism right now.

We consign rural and de-industrialised Appalachian former workers as ignorant and racists, when in fact we’re also being bigoted against them for dismissing their genuine feelings of not having anymore jobs left, and their community left rotting by offshoring and automation caused by mismanaged globalisation.

and unfortunately, they don’t do themselves many favors half the time either. It is the rural voter block that backs trump mostly at the end of the day. They also don’t do themselves much of a favor calling dems pedos and child rapists, or communist authoritarians either. I’m certain not all of them do it, and i’m open to the ones who don’t. Though if they aren’t open to my existence, i’m not going to psyop myself out of existence here unfortunately. My bare minimum here is living in reality, and not being delusional. If you can meet that bar, we will get along well, if not, oh well, gotta crack some eggs to make an omelet i suppose.

when in fact we’re also being bigoted against them for dismissing their genuine feelings of not having anymore jobs left

not saying i disagree, but please do some polling about how many rural people would like to move to urban areas for job opportunities.

Why else has protectionism returned to the political menu?

right wing populism.

And the folks who are out of jobs who could not put food on the table is the stuff that dictators are made of. I did not say this, it was Franklin Roosevelt. He knows that desperate people are easily brainwashed and swayed.

you mean during the great depression? The single worst economic collapse, ever.

The same progressives who always call for empathy do not place the same to the blue collar, working class folks left behind economically. Progressives need to understand the people different from them. It is only right to learn even from the other side.

you cannot extend empathy to that which does not request it.

like ultimately, i’m sympathetic to this, but the US doesn’t need this right now, it needs a reality check.