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      Actually yes… fascism is a natural consequence of late-stage capitalism as it’s one way to keep the exploited masses under control by focussing their anger away from the wealthy leaders.

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        What historical precedents would you cite as examples of your statement, “fascism is a natural consequence of late-stage capitalism”?

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          Basically every historic precedent works here. The turn of the 19th to 20th century can be mainly characterized by the results of a rapid technological advancement via industrialisation in which the workers were left behind while the control sat in higher-up circles, partly made up from remaining aristocracy and partly from rich high education citizens who accumulated mnost of the produced wealth. This basically slowly eliminated a general middle-class, provoking clashes between left wing worker movements representing the majority but not having the power and an established rich upper class trying to exploit them for more wealth. (To no one’s surprise this is exactly the time when capitalism was defined in details: Karl Marx - Das Kapital (volume 1 to 3, 1867-1894 ))

          That scenario can only (and usually has) resulted in either revolution or focusing that (poor, and usually less educated) majority’s anger into another direction. The latter resulted in nationalist populist movements all throughout Europe. The only thing in doubt is if it would have won everywhere over time (as in some countries there still was a stable enough middle-class to delay that development at least fo a time). I assume so, but we will never know, as the countries where this development won faster (usually because the pre-conditions for the poorer population were already worse) changed the course of history for all.

          If you want to call it a rise of fascism (the original one in Italy), nazis (in Germany) or a definitely fascistic military dictatorship based on “popular front” politics -with some support by monarchists realizing the risk they were in- (Spain) doesn’t make a huge difference in the big picture.

          Also: for a less historic and more “today” point of view look at Russia. Contrary to people still associating them with communism their form of oligarchy is definitely a variant of late-stage capitalism. In fact the risk of the US’ capitalism developing even further into a pure wealth-based oligarchy is a discussion topic for at least two decades. And look were Russia is taking pointers from right now… straight from the nazi playbook.

          (And now that I have mentioned it… and the discussed risk of the US moving into the same oligarchy direction: Isn’t there a certain guy leaning heavily into far-right nationalism while using fascist and nazi rhetorics at times, who wants to become president again?)

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      6 months ago

      Because despite the propaganda, it’s actually, relatively speaking, a good place to live.

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          You just be new to Lemmy. There is a constant push here that the us is some huge miserable shit hole. I’m sure some people actually believe it, and the us is far from perfect, but the whole thing comes for propaganda.

          So if you believe it, might be time to come up for air and really objectively look around.

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            Does anyone think it’s a shithole? Maybe if you’re truly poor or a political wingnut on the fringes.

            The real issue IMO is that there’s a subset of the population that seems to think America is The Greatest Country On Earth™️, bar none, and gesture randomly in every direction but end up trying to shove the flag up your ass and equating the ability to bomb impoverished foreign countries to a marker of that greatness.

            Meanwhile, disparity is wildly increasing, evangelical, right wing theofascists are trying to turn it into a dictatorship/wannabe Russia, Americans are being eaten alive by educational, housing, and medical costs, overrun by functional monopolies, and objectively fare worse in many, many social, health, and economic markers when compared to the rest of the civilized world including upward mobility. Upward mobility being huge as its part of the American Dream™️ in which you allegedly can be anyone you want to be, but in fact countries outside the US offer better chances of changing your station than the US does. Depending on where you live in the US (particularly the south) there is better than a 95% chance your life will never get better. Butwhatabout-ing and saying look how much better off we are than, say, Venezuela isn’t a marker of success, measuring how far you are from the bottom isn’t the same as trying to climb to the top.

            So no, the US isn’t a shithole, but if someone is gonna start waving a flag and saying without qualification how great it is here the speaker shouldn’t be surprised when people cover their asses and say hell no it isn’t.

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    Housing crisis, 40-year out of date poverty level, a minimum wage that hasn’t been increased in 15 years and that has had a continuously decreasing purchasing power for almost 60 years. Most expensive healthcare, rampant student loan debt, record-breaking corporate profits, a self-immolating middle class, etc. etc.

    Honestly, it’s hard to find much to be happy about here right now.

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      The US is far richer than a lot of the higher ranked countries. Furthermore, it’s the best performing country out of the pandemic. Can’t be the reason for the drop

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      a self-immolating middle class

      This is the worst part. Every time I see people who mainly consume digital entertainment scoff at getting it for free, it just cements in my mind how most people are useful idiots.

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    Wouldn’t this be the first time the 2024 world happiness report was published?

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    Sorry, I’m contributing to that.

    I think the main issue is that Americans have been conditioned into being alone unless they spend money.

    It’s next to impossible to just ‘hang out’ with your friends these days. It always has to be something ‘hype’ or ‘bandwagony’ to matter.

    This generation just needs to grow up and learn to think for itself.

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    Yeah… the fact that the country that perfected genocidal white supremacism was on a (so-called) “top 20 happiest countries list” tells me that list wasn’t worth shit to start off with.