Ha! That’s one of the reasons I switched to a degoogled android phone. The extra battery life is quite noticeable.
Degoogled means you don’t use any google’s services either?
I’m using the volla phone x23 which runs vollaOS, an android fork without all those pesky Google background processes. It uses MicroG to simulate them though, since most Android apps expect them now.
Bonus: Thanks for the 2 40 guys, not as good as 4 20, but it’s close enough <3
I had recently installed Grapheneos on my pixel, with a goal is determining what was responsible for all the senseless Google domains that a pixel normally contacts.
To my surprise disabling Network for the Google Services Framework and Play Services killed all of the nonsense. The only downside was that GSF has the push mechanism in it also, that many apps use for push notifications.
If only there were an alternate for push notifications that all apps would use.
Anyway, Grapheneos runs way cooler than Google’s Malware version.
I use ntfy for notifications, even on my vanilla Pixel.
The less google services apps you use the less google services needs to run.
That looks nice, but apps that use GSF for push won’t use that. Or am I missing something on their website?
Correct, an app has to be built without GSF. That’s why I still use Vanilla Pixel for Google Maps and Android Auto.
You can still use sand boxed play services in grapheneos for that.
No, not for Android Auto
That’s incorrect, Graphene OS has Android Auto support.
oh they fixed it, cool thanks
It is mentioned in their app store with instructions on how to activate it. Is it broken atm?
dude, people wonder why i shit on android constantly, why would you ever produce a product that can just, do shit like this, it’s awful. (to be clear, i hate IOS as much, for the same reasons)
And its only worse with manufacturer flavors of android, samsung loves shipping a bunch of useless apps that you can’t even remove.
and no, i don’t want to hear about rooting. Just call me when you guys figure out how to make an actual OS.
this seems like a good situation to hear about rooting but go off
it seems good, until you realize it’s a nightmare process that only works on “most phones” requiring some kind of crackpot technique pulled straight from someones ass that happened to work.
only to get moderately more access to googled android and oops, it’s still mostly shit. Oh good, i can probably just install an android derivative, and oops, it’s also mostly dogshit, just less worse and more annoying.
I did not have any problems installing LineageOS on my Galaxy at all and it solves most of the issues you listed. Helps with battery life etc. It’s not just mostly degoogling.
that’s nice, personally i just think that anything android derived is essentially a boat made out of ice.
So what do you use instead? Not iOS I hope LOL. LineageOS is the best option I’ve found. I’m not a Tech Philosopher, I want control over my device.
android, shockingly, it’s almost like it explains why i hate it so much lmao.
I’ve heard some decent things about lineage, but i feel like i would still hate it, just moderately less than android since it probably won’t give me aids as opposed to android.
One of these days i’m either getting a linux phone, and just using linux (which doesn’t absolve me fully of the terrible hardware platform that phones are based on, unfortunately) that or i’ll pull some shit out of my ass and use a PDA or just make some shit out of thin air that aligns with my requirements. One of the two.
I want control over my device.
if it makes any more sense, i’m a linux user at heart, so linux has ruined me because it’s essentially the perfect OS design, aside from how aggressively modular it is. I essentially just want linux, but turbo specific for android and it’s hardware. And ideally, the hardware would be less dogshit, a proper BIOS standard would be nice for one, rom flashing is kinda fucking silly ngl. Proper hardware support in the open source space would also obviously help a lot, qualcomm and other providers are quite dogshit about that in particular, which causes a lot of problems.
I won’t nag you to switch until you have a second device handy haha that’s when I did, but switched from a secondhand iOS device bought off a friend for almost nothing
Your negativity sucks but at least it’s not targeted at anyone. It’s just souring people’s moods.
the negativity sucks, but android is frankly, deserving of it, especially with how much better IOS is now than it used to be.
Android only implemented MDNS in android 12, OS wide (the only useful implementation of it) a literal decade after microsoft added it to windows
mounting shit like an SMB share is literally impossible, unless rooted. Because fuck you, why would you ever want to mount remote storage on a device known for having super expensive storage, or really shitty storage.
It’s customizable, if all you want to customize is the homescreen, because the lockscreen isn’t trivially customizable.
it’s also a google product, so it comes with the really cool feature of being terrible.
Oh and if you wanted to install apps on the playstore, they’re also all shit. Most of them are paid, and the rest are either ad filled, or malware. Cool, i’ll just use fdroid then. Oh wait it’s just a glorified APK installer…
not to mention androids nonsense file structure and partitioning done by default, as well as it’s wonderfully obtuse .NOMEDIA standard, that doesn’t seem to work properly, and doesn’t fucking implement anywhere.
the ram management is also fucking horrid, seeming to only unload apps entirely, but arguably that’s more of a problem with apps taking literal gigabytes of ram to load fucking text on the screen just so you can read someone making a your mom joke.
People talk constantly about how amazing the technical leap from PDP11s to iphones was, yet we seem to be regressing in the software space faster than germany during the hitler arc and it fucking baffles me how.
I, too, just want Linux phones to take off already. We’re this far in the future and I still don’t really have a “computer in my pocket” so much as a “specialized commerce and consumption device that can occasionally be made to do useful things.”
Android feels like the whole OS was made to be telemetry and advertiser friendly. I just wish I could have that “It’s my device” feeling in my pocket like I do on my desk.
Your complaints about Android are valid, and I think there’s fewer people who are actually “android enthusiasts” vs "It’s what we’ve got right now"ists lol…
same, i suspect linux phones will take off, the primary issue ironically, is hardware. Shitty hardware vendors providing bad closed source hardware drivers, and other menial bullshit that doesnt help (thanks qualcomm)
Once those issues are sorted out, i think it’s a fairly straight shot to getting software support, since most mobile hardware is effectively the same.
Your complaints about Android are valid, and I think there’s fewer people who are actually “android enthusiasts” vs "It’s what we’ve got right now"ists lol…
i’d like to say the same, but honestly i think most android users are just, too stockholmed to actually care.
